February 3, 2025

22 thoughts on “Notes on tuning a Hustler 6BTV

  1. Very well thought-out and written article. No doubt this will come-in very handy as I finish-up the final steps in my BTV-6 installation. Thank you for your efforts in publishing this info.

  2. Hi, I would like to share my tuning experience with the BTV-6 and get your opinion. do you have an email address I can use?

    Mike

  3. Doug I live in fl too. I needed a minimum of 4 radials at a length of 20 ft each. Without them the 5btv is unusable. Wendy

  4. You have some broken links to your plots. Great read. I will be referring to it when I put my 6BTV up.

    Joseph

  5. Hi Don,
    I use that area for antenna testing, and have several antenna mount points installed. That is what the additional posts and wire runs are for.

  6. thanks ihave a alinco dx -sr 8t , antenna a hustler 6btv vertical antenna 80 meter vertinal antenna thanks . almost ready to put myham radio and antenna up thanks to all ken .

  7. End fed monopole verticals will work without radials, however the efficiency will be about 15%. As illustrated in the ARRL antenna book, an antenna can be thought of as a capacitor with a series resistor. Displacement currents that form the electromagnetic field flow between the plates. One plate of the capacitor is the vertical radiator and ground is the other plate. Since even good ground is a poor conductor it has high loss, hence the resistor that represents the loss. The purpose of the radials is to put a low value resistor in parallel with the ground loss resistor to reduce the loss. And the value of two resistors in parallel is?
    As radials are added, the feed point resistance decreases until it reaches the theoretical 37 ohms. So the SWR goes up as radials are added. The best SWR of a 1/4 wave vertical without matching is about 1.2
    Ray
    W8LYJ

  8. i have a alinco 160 / 10 ham radio also i have a hustler 6 btv 80 meter vertical antenna no tadials works very goo and clear.

  9. You may have adjusted the trap too far… I had something like that happen when I adjusted the 30 meter trap beyond where it was designed to be.

  10. Im having a problem with 40 meters. Good radial field, all bands except 40 are in the center of where I want it, but the center frequency on 40 is 6.98. Tested using an AA-600. I’ve adjusted the traps, and the top section is against the 30 meter trap. 🙁

  11. Antenna input impedance is not an indication of efficiency. There use to be a chart in the ARRL antenna book that showed efficiency vs number of radials. ARRL recommends 16 radials for decent efficiency although broadcasters use 120 for 95% theoretical efficiency.
    For 30 radials length can be 0.15 wavelength.
    Ray
    W8LYJ

  12. An excellent article Dave, I’ve been running a Butternut Vertical for about the past thirty years or so. Mine started out as a two band unit and I converted it to 6 band use. It has been an outstanding performer for me. I recently moved it to a different location here at the QTH and installed a new radial field in the process. I used an AEA 121 for setting each band. I wish I had read your article before redoing everything. I ended up much as you did but with considerably more effort. Thanks for posting all this good information.

  13. Gene, you could put an ad in your local Craigslist that you need help setting your vertical up. But I do believe if you follow the directions and are not in a hurry you should be able to figure it out. Just try tuning it for the lowest band first and see what your analyzer shows. Then try transmitting a low power signal through an SWR meter and take data points along the lowest band, which I believe is 80 meters on your antenna. If your lowest SWR is out of the band you need to make further adjustments. Adjustments on different bands will affect other bands, so you follow the tuning process per the directions to minimize this. Adjustments on a band should move the bottom of the SWR curve up or down. You move it to where you plan to work in those bands, continue with the adjustments, and keep doing that until you have every band’s low SWR where you want. A trap dipole or vertical is a compromise antenna that is shorter than a full length antenna.

    It is possible that your MFJ antenna analyzer is not working correctly. I’ve read that the model you have is not easy to work with. If you have money to spend the MFJ-223 may be much easier to work with since it has a graphical display, which shows at a glance many data points on a graph-like scale on the LCD readout. I picked up a uses AEA HF Analyst SWR-121 for $30 at the Hamvention (biggest hamfest in the world!) in May of this year and it made quick work of tuning my mobile antenna whip antennas.I could see quickly where the SWR dip was and knew to make it shorter to go up in frequency and longer to go down.

    By now you have probably gotten on the air, but consider, if you have the space, either a fan dipole for multiband use, or a doublet, which is not resonant on any band and is fed with 450 or 600 ohm ladder line to a tuner, then to your rig. (You can use a window pass-through panel to get the open wire line or coaxial cables to other antennas into the house or shack.)

    A 102 foot doublet, fed in the middle with open wire line (or window line, which is similar), should tune on any band above 3.5 MHz through 30 MHz and possibly 6 meters (50-54 MHz) also. Other lengths work well also but this is actually the length of an MFJ antenna that comes with everything you need if you don’t want to build it yourself.

    A fan dipole is simply multiple dipoles fed at the same point. They’re more complicated than a doublet but you tune each band separately and there is very little interaction. I think 5 or 6 bands is a practical limit but one cut for 40M will work on 15M, so you get a band “for free” on the 40M dipole.

    Donald
    KJ3I

  14. Thanks very much for all of this great information on cleaning up a 6BTV antenna. I have had one on my pier over the Chesapeake Bay and it recently took a pretty nasty storm. Time to tear it down and clean it up. I was not sure where to start until I read your article. Appreciate all the great reference Links too. I will summarize my results on my Ham Blog (www.kg3v.com) and will Link to your article.

    73, Tom KG3V

  15. Well done. I have a 6BTV and have never been able to get a good SWR on most bands. Like you, I got the tilt base and a few other DXE pieces. My real issue is the old adage: “Location, Location, Location “. The plan was to operate this as a no radial Verticle. No plan survives call ntact with the enemy and this one is no exception. The area there I had to locate the mount is in a strip on lane along the back of the lot. About 8×30’. To the rear is a ~45 degree slope to a drainage ditch. This area is not accessible for radials. The other three sides innclude a wall, solid paved area and the end of the lot.

    My initial install was a post driven in about out 4 feet with 18 inches above ground. This gave me the scattered SWRs. My measurements were done with an AA-600.

    My conclusion after many sweaty hours, was the low conductivity of the FL sand made this one almost unusable without a basic radial field.

    When you add the tuning issues to the HOA was issues, I pulled the antenna back into the garage and went to plan B.

    Plan B is a Ciro Mazzoni Baby Loop with a Yaesu rotator.
    I’m working on an aluminum mount so I can easily pull the antenna during hurricane season as needed. This one has a 100 mph limit. But the real issue here is blowing and falling tree limbs. Easier to pull it as needed.

    If Plan B doesn’twork, then I’ll go back and tinker with the 6 BTV. If it does, I’ll still see if I can get it to work as a pure vertical.

    Will post once I make some progress.

    Since someone will ask about long wires and dipoles, the HOA and look t size pretty much eliminates those options.

    73,

    Doug

    W4DBL

  16. W5GNE, Magnolia, TX., I loved your detailed planning method and the way you presented your info.
    I am new to Ham (Tech Feb.,2018, General August, 2018). I setup a di-pole with an auto tuner with no problems. I picked up a 4-BTV and up graded to a 6-BTV 1/4 vertical a couple months ago. But, being new I have had a difficult time attempting to tune it. I have purchased all the DX upgrades (radial plate, quick tilt, Choke, 80 radials 32 ft each) and set it up. Its pretty but not tuned. Yea, I have all the DX Eng. manuals and have attempted to follow them. I have used a MFJ HF/VHF SWR Analyzer Model MFJ-259CM (new) but I think its an “operator error” issue. I sure wished you lived near me to help out. Most of the Ham guys in my NARS club have di-poles and do not understand a vertical.
    Gene

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